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Started by Omowale, Apr 02, 2022, 03:48 PM
Quote"The one who [water] flows from."
Quote from: Atipo on Apr 02, 2022, 06:50 PMOne of my most favorite Yoruba proverbs, and one that encourages me in my research of my ancestors and Ìṣẹ̀ṣe is this, Odò tó gbàgbé orísun rẹ̀ a gbẹ. The river that forgets its orísun, the place it originates from, will dry up. This river is one's ìṣẹ̀ṣe, one's culture, ancestors, beliefs, language, etc. etc. As we continue to learn, let us appreciate and pay homogate to where our existence flows from, and the sources that continues to provide us with life and meaning.
Quote from: Omowale on Apr 17, 2022, 07:15 PMI'll add here some more info from my studies on Oshun....Oshun is commonly scene as the Orisha of beauty, fertility, seduction, rivers, and children but there are stories of her also being a skilled warrior and a conqueror...This is a depiction of Ọ̀ṣun in Osun Osogbo Sacred Grove in Nigeria.
Quote from: Michele294 on Jan 12, 2023, 05:12 PMBeauty, fertility, seduction, children... Humans first settled near rivers because there was a drinking source there, and the land was fertile there (fertility) and so the humans could flourish. With fertile land and well-fed humans came healthy births and fat babies. Healthy, well-fed people were rounder, smoother, more nourished skin - more beautiful than a dehydrated malnourished human (beauty). And beauty seduces and brings about more births (fertility). So to me I see all that as coming from the river and since Oshun is (to me anyway, lol) a river spirit/guardian then it makes sense that she became associated with those things (although in the modern world we see it differently - "beauty" to us is extremely sexualized whereas back in the day it was more related to "healthy and looks like they could bear a child/support a mother and child). Prosperity - the river brought abundant crops (prosperity) and as humans evolved the river provided a way to move goods from one place to the next, and goods and money exchanged hands on the banks and trading posts of the river. As for warrior, they say that water is the most destructive element on earth. It will carve through cement simply by drip-drip-dripping for an extended time, and a flash-flood will cut down a bridge. So to me that makes sense too. :-) Thank you!